[ID3 Dev] 'Extending' ID3 V2.4

Michal Vician id3v2 at audiott.com
Thu Feb 9 13:16:26 PST 2006


> As an implementer of ID3v2 I would prefer to see more frames deprecated
> rather than additional added.  In my experience the majority of the frames
> spec is ignored anyway if not by library developers then by application
> developers.

Can't see the merit of deprecating frames. ID3v2 is proposed so frames you
would like to deprecate doesn't limit/restrict you in any way. There is no
need to deprecate them. So why do they annoy you?

Regards
Miso


> On Thursday 09 February 2006 19:26, Ryan Germann wrote:
>> Hi; I'm new to this list... are there standard ways to suggest new ID3
>> frames? Is ID3 extendable in some prescribed way?
>>
>> I see at:
>>
>> http://www.id3.org/develop.html
>>
>> The subsection named:
>>
>> Additional standards
>>
>> So extra frames are being put forward to support Chapters & their
>> TOCs... but if I have my own ideas, what is the procedure for suggesting
>> them?
>
> I would say for most cases a user defined text frame is sufficient:
>
> http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-frames.txt - Section 4.2.6
>
> As an implementer of ID3v2 I would prefer to see more frames deprecated
> rather
> than additional added.  In my experience the majority of the frames spec
> is
> ignored anyway if not by library developers then by application
> developers.
>
> Anyone ever seen an application that handles "Synched tempo codes" frame?
> How
> about "Group identification registration"?  I'd put most of the defined
> frames into the unused category.
>
> I think most of the usefulness of ID3v2 could be reduced to text
> identification frames and GEOB ("generic encapsulated object") frames with
> some agreement on some standardized frames.
>
> There's a certain amount of elegance to the Vorbis comments for instance
> which
> are simple key-value pairs.  TagLib's implementation of Vorbis comments is
> about 250 lines of code in 2 source files, as compared to the (incomplete)
> ID3v2 implementation which is about 2500 in 26 files.  And really the only
> thing that I miss in Vorbis is the ability to store binary data (which
> GEOB,
> since it includes mime-types would be quite suitable for) and padding.
>
> But that's mostly just ranting.  I think the simple answer to your
> question is
> that either a TXXX or a GEOB frame will probably do that trick.  I may be
> off
> on the current trends in the ID3v2 world, having been away from the list
> for
> a while, but I don't seriously expect significant changes to the standards
> in
> the near future.
>
> -Scott


-- 
Michal Vician
id3v2 at audiott.com
http://www.audiott.com/


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