[ID3 Dev] curious problem with Cyrillic letters

[Sergei Gerasenko]

Hello Jim,

Thanks for replying to my post. It could be that you're right although some
of the files that work correctly are version 2.2. Maybe everything
including and below 2.3 works? I'm going to test that theory today or
tomorrow and let you know.

Thanks!
  Sergei 

On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:49:09PM -0500, Jim wrote:
> Hi Sergei.
> 
> This is just a guess but perhaps the problem is with how your MP3 player 
> handles v2.4 tags?  (I haven't actually checked out your tags yet but 
> they look ok at first glance.  The difference in TPE1 frame length is 
> because the Linux tag includes the final "00 00" and the Windows tag 
> doesn't, but I don't think that should cause the problem you are 
> having.)  Does the Linux utility you are using give you any control over 
> what version of tags are written?  If it does, maybe you can try setting 
> it to write v2.3 tags instead of v2.4 and see if that fixes the problem?
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> Sergei Gerasenko wrote:
> >Hi everybody,
> >
> >I just bought a Sony NWZ-A818 MP3 player and I have quite a music 
> >collection with cyrillic mp3 tags. After I transferred the collection to
> >the player, it displayed everything that was Cyrillic with question marks. 
> >So, I thought, bummer, the thing doesn't understand
> >Unicode. But as I was scrolling through the list, to my surprise I found a 
> >couple that were displayed correctly! I was very excited and
> >became determined to find out what was different in those files that the 
> >player displayed correctly.
> >
> >I soon discovered that if I created a Cyrillic tag on Windows XP (using 
> >windows explorer), the player displayed the cyrillic
> >characters correctly.  If I took the same song and read the tag on Linux, 
> >the tag was also displayed correctly BUT if I edited and
> >saved it on Linux (using Quod Libet, which uses a Python id3 library), the 
> >tag turned into question marks both on Windows and
> >the player.
> >
> >So I reduced the tag to as little as possible to find the difference. I 
> >just left the artist name and made it 3 letters long "Vоп". Then I
> >used a hex editor to read the tag. The only difference I saw was that 
> >Windows made the tag version to be 2.3, while the
> >Linux made it 2.4. 
> >
> >Also, Windows made the length of the artist name frame (TPE1) "09" and the 
> >Linux version made it 2 bytes longer "0b". Otherwise they are
> >completely identical. Except also for a difference in the size of the 
> >whole tag: "1f76" and "0800" respectively.
> >
> >Here are the corresponding hex dumps:
> >
> >After editing on Windows
> >========================
> >
> >sergei at ubuntu:~$ hexdump -Cn 200 song.mp3
> >00000000  49 44 33 03 00 00 00 00  1f 76 54 50 45 31 00 00  
> >|ID3......vTPE1..|
> >00000010  00 09 00 00 01 ff fe 56  00 3e 04 3f 04 00 00 00  
> >|.......V.>.?....|
> >00000020  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
> >|................|
> >*
> >
> >
> >After editing on Linux
> >=======================
> >sergei at ubuntu:~$ hexdump -Cn 200 song.mp3 
> >00000000  49 44 33 04 00 00 00 00  08 00 54 50 45 31 00 00  
> >|ID3.......TPE1..|
> >00000010  00 0b 00 00 01 ff fe 56  00 3e 04 3f 04 00 00 00  
> >|.......V.>.?....|
> >00000020  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  
> >|................|
> >*
> >
> >This is where my expertise stops! Can someone figure out what's going on 
> >here?
> >
> >If anybody is interested, both files can be found below but my download 
> >speed is pretty bad. So please be patient.
> >
> >http://65.27.155.246/~sergei/windows_version.mp3 and
> >http://65.27.155.246/~sergei/linux_version.mp3
> >
> >Looking forward to your analysis!
> >
> >Thanks,
> >    Sergei
> >
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