[ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
Brian Mearns
bmearns at coe.neu.edu
Wed Jan 24 19:18:38 PST 2007
Well, I am sorry about the whining crack. It wasn't really necessary. I
would argue rather vehemently, however, that at least half of developers
most certainly do NOT use IE. However, that's not really the point. The
point is that the icon or lack there of shouldn't really exclude anyone
from fully utilizing any existing implementations or libraries related
to ID3, nor should it prevent any developer from developing such an
implementation or library. So I think we can all appreciate the bug
report you offered, but I hope you can see why it would be such a low
priority, since it doesn't really exclude anyone.
I would also point out that the bug is in IE, not the wiki. This is
evidenced by the fact that it works in Mozilla, IE just doesn't know how
to render files of that type properly. I really can't think of anyway
that it could be fixed on the wiki side, the fix would have to be in IE
itself. As a work around till the Evil Empire gets on the ball, I've
packed the ico in a zip and added it to the wiki. It appears as a link
directly below the actual icon file. I realize we're now excluding
people who use IE and don't have a decompressing tool, but hopefully
that'll be a null set.
Sorry you had such a rough introduction to the group. Things usually go
pretty smoothly here, so hopefully the future will prove more helpful
and copasetic for you.
-Brian
Dale Preston wrote:
> Thank you.
>
> I am sorry you felt I was whining. I wasn't. I didn't pursue the thread or
> respond to comments like "the team doesn't have time to develop icons" when,
> in fact, the web page advertises the existence of an icon. Finally, after
> many days, someone else offered a suggestion. I took the opportunity to
> explain why I was unable to get the icon and to repeat my simple request to
> have it emailed.
>
> The link is still wrong. Granted, it may work with Mozilla, but 90% of ID3
> tag users and developers have IE. Is it the specific intent of the ID3 team
> to exclude IE users? I don't think so. That means the failure of the icon
> to work as expected in IE is a bug. I just pointed it out. There was no
> whining.
>
> Thank you again for sending the icon. It is much appreciated.
>
> Dale Preston
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Mearns [mailto:bmearns at coe.neu.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:31 AM
> To: id3v2 at id3.org
> Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
>
> He's right it doesn't work (at least not in an obvious way) with IE, but Moz
> is free and vastly superior, and allows you to save the given url
> (http://id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=id3v2.
> ico)
> as an icon file. (Win32 icon file with multiple sizes and color pallets,
> circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one...)
>
> Now I'm highly tempted not to do this because, frankly, you're whining.
> But I've attached the icon file so this damned thread can just stop.
>
> -Brian
>
> Jud White wrote:
>> I used Firefox to get the icon, as suggested.
>> http://cdtag.com/id3v2icon.zip
>>
>> Jim wrote:
>>> Well, I could email you the icon file. But this would be the same
>>> file that is downloaded from the link that Dan O'Neill originally posted.
>>> (http://id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target
>>> =id3v2.ico
>>> <http://id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target
>>> =id3v2.ico>)
>>>
>>> When I save the file from that link, I get an icon file that has 4
>>> different icons (32x32 16 color, 32x32 256 color, 48x48 16 color,
>>> 48x48 256 color). From what you wrote it seems like you already tried
>>> downloading this file and that isn't what you want so I'm guessing
>>> that emailing it to you would be a waste of time?
>>> --Jim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Dale Preston <mailto:dalepres at msn.com>
>>> *To:* id3v2 at id3.org <mailto:id3v2 at id3.org>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:28 PM
>>> *Subject:* RE: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
>>>
>>> Thank you. I still don't have the icon. One response suggests that
>>> there's no time to develop one. I guess that person didn't know
>>> that the icon already exists. Others suggest that IE should just
>>> download the icon but it doesn't. The HTML in the page is not a
>>> link to the file nor does it offer the address of the file. The
>>> HTML calls a script that retrieves and renders the file. I have
>>> viewed the source of the page and there is no way to get the icon
>>> URL from that code.
>>>
>>> Whoever created the new site just made a mistake. If you render a
>>> Win32 icon as an image, you get an image, not an icon. A Win32
>>> icon is not a bitmap but rather a collection of bitmaps. While I
>>> am sure the code for rendering the images, rather than simply
>>> letting the web server and HTML render the images, is real nifty
>>> but it is a mistake to use it for rendering icons.
>>>
>>> It is getting really frustrating. I guess it was too much to ask
>>> for one of those who have the full icon to just email it to me.
>>> One was able to email a reply to my request stating how to get the
>>> icon with wget - apparently a program but I am not familiar with
>>> its use - and stated that he had the icon. It seems it would have
>>> been just as easy, perhaps easier, to simply email the icon as I
>>> had pleaded.
>>>
>>> Thanks for trying, Manuel.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> *From:* Manuel Teuber [mailto:teuber01_zigr at yahoo.de]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2007 1:54 AM
>>> *To:* id3v2 at id3.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
>>>
>>> I know it's a bit late for this answer but unfortunately i'm not
>>> able to check my emails regularly.
>>> If you want to get the icon file just copy the adress of this file
>>> and insert it into the adress field of your browser. Then you
>>> might be able to download it. At least Firefox offers me to
>>> download it then.
>>>
>>> -Manuel
>>>
>>> Dale Preston schrieb:
>>>
>>> Maybe it's an IE 7 issue. I still don't get the image in the
>>> developer info
>>>
>>> page but the link you included here shows a picture - just not
>>> the whole
>>>
>>> icon file.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're able to get the ico file, would you mind emailing it to
>>> me? It
>>>
>>> would surely be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Dale Preston
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Dan O'Neill [mailto:id3v2 at northpb.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:49 PM
>>>
>>> To: id3v2 at id3.org <mailto:id3v2 at id3.org>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
>>>
>>>
>>> Dale Preston wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On the ID3.org Developer Information page, there's a place
>>> that is
>>> supposed to show an icon for ID3V2 but it isn't displaying
>>> correctly and
>>> even if it were it would not provide access to all of the
>>> embedded
>>> versions of the icon. Is there a way to download the full
>>> ICO file?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the graphics seem to be displaying properly. Here is a link
>>> to the
>>> .ico image, or you can right click on the image and save it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&tar
>>> get=id3
>>> <http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&ta
>>> rget=id3>
>>>
>>>
>>> v2.ico
>>>
>>>
>>> dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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