From fiji at ayup.limey.net  Wed Sep 19 07:20:16 2007
From: fiji at ayup.limey.net (Ben Bennett)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:20:16 -0400
Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
In-Reply-To: <B5E03219D72A466FBE3499A4F0921C64@fluke>
References: <BAY113-F269209E16A6435EDB0D69982B90@phx.gbl> <B5E03219D72A466FBE3499A4F0921C64@fluke>
Message-ID: <20070919142016.GA22183@ayup.limey.net>

On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 12:31:52AM +1200, Mike van Bokhoven wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Couple of points there - I'd say if Winamp and iTunes don't want to support 
> a currently implemented frame, there's not much point in trying to specify 
> another frame for them to ignore as well! Are you sure they don't use POPM? 

iTunes does not.  Even worse... they don't store the rating in the tag
at all.  It is only stored in their iTunes "database" file.


> I have no idea if they do or don't really, just seems silly not to use a 
> standardised frame for something like that. Additionally, repeated play 
> isn't necessary - all you have to do is set the rating byte to whatever 
> value you like, the play counter is optional, the way I read the spec. I'd 
> guess the way this frame is used is up to the app using it, the standard 
> doesn't specify much detail.

Windows Media Player uses the POPM field to do it's stars.

 
> While talking about new standard frames is interesting, in reality ID3 
> seems quite static. The uptake of 2.4 does not seem to have been very 
> widespread... am I wrong there? The practical upshot of that is that 
> there's very little point in defining new frames, unfortunately. Would 
> software authors update their support to a 2.5 if there was one?

iTunes supports 2.4 in a broken way.

Taglib can read 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 frames, but can only write 2.4.


But I agree with your point that us speccing a new frame is unlikely
to get it well supported.  I would rather issue a 2.4.1 version to
clarify the spec on some frames and make the whole "frame length"
issue blindingly clear so that anything writing 2.4.1 would get that
right.

It would also be nice to have a 2.3.1 version that just added UTF-8
support.

		     -ben

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From kermit_blue at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 19 05:20:54 2007
From: kermit_blue at hotmail.com (kermit blue)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:20:54 -0400
Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
In-Reply-To: <749F5067C7A94CF5A1E41079D47053B1@fluke>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F269209E16A6435EDB0D69982B90@phx.gbl>

that's an interesting feature.
but what i'm thinking of is something that would carry over into programs 
like itunes & winamp the same way that things like genre already do.
also, i'm thinking of ratings that you yourself do as a one-time decision; 
the process you pointed to would take a lot of time to develop the ratings & 
only takes one factor (repetition of play) into account.

thanks for the reply


>From: "Mike van Bokhoven" <mike at ambientdesign.com>
>Reply-To: id3v2 at id3.org
>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:58 +1200
>
>Hi,
>
>How about the Popularimeter frame? In the ID3v2.3 spec, see the section 
>"4.18. Popularimeter":
>
>The purpose of this frame is to specify how good an audio file is. Many 
>interesting applications could be found to this frame such as a playlist 
>that features better audiofiles more often than others or it could be used 
>to profile a person's taste and find other 'good' files by comparing 
>people's profiles. The frame is very simple. It contains the email address 
>to the user, one rating byte and a four byte play counter, intended to be 
>increased with one for every time the file is played. The email is a 
>terminated string. The rating is 1-255 where 1 is worst and 255 is best. 0 
>is unknown. If no personal counter is wanted it may be omitted. When the 
>counter reaches all one's, one byte is inserted in front of the counter 
>thus making the counter eight bits bigger in the same away as the play 
>counter ("PCNT"). There may be more than one "POPM" frame in each tag, but 
>only one with the same email address.
>
>
>Mike.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "kermit blue" <kermit_blue at hotmail.com>
>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:11 AM
>Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>
>
>>maybe this isn't the right place for this but i'm giving it a shot.
>>
>>i would like to see song ratings included as one of the categories of 
>>information included in the ID3 tag.
>>the various music library programs offer ratings systems, but don't store 
>>the information in the ID3 tag which would be much more practical.
>>
>>thanks,
>>kermit
>>
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From id3v2 at northpb.com  Wed Sep 19 08:42:19 2007
From: id3v2 at northpb.com (Dan O'Neill)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:42:19 -0700
Subject: [ID3 Dev] id3 updates re: itunes and frames in the wild
Message-ID: <46F1435B.5070809@northpb.com>

Ben Bennett just added some good information to id3.org about iTunes [1] 
and frames seen, but not include in the standard. [2]

Thanks for the updates Ben!

In the interest of getting more complete information about iTunes, can 
anyone help with the following question?

1. I am aware of the TCMP iTunes only frame, are there others?
      TCMP - iTunes compliation flag [3]

2. I'm aware of these COMM frames, but don't have documentation
    for all of them.  iTunes overloads comment frames to add
    data for iTunes/iPod specific functionality.
     desc = iTunNORM - iTunes Normalization [4]
     desc = iTunSMPB - ?
     desc = iTunPGAP - ?
     desc = ITUNES_CDDB_IDS - ?

3. I'm believe that iTunes will write 2.4 tags
    even when writing in 2.3 format (TSOA, TSOT or TSOP)
    Can anyone confirm this behavior?

Thanks,

dano
[1] http://id3.org/iTunes
[2] http://id3.org/Developer_Information
[3] http://id3.org/iTunes_Compilation_Flag
[4] http://id3.org/iTunes_Normalization_settings




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From paul_t100 at fastmail.fm  Thu Sep 20 04:39:25 2007
From: paul_t100 at fastmail.fm (Paul Taylor)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:39:25 +0100
Subject: [ID3 Dev] iTunes and Winamp only seem to recognise a value in the COMM frame
 as a comment if its short description is blank,
Message-ID: <46F25BED.1060800@fastmail.fm>

iTunes and Winamp only seem to recognise a value in the COMM frame as a 
comment if its short description is blank, am I right , and is this the 
case for most applications ?

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From paul_t100 at fastmail.fm  Thu Sep 20 03:36:57 2007
From: paul_t100 at fastmail.fm (Paul Taylor)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:36:57 +0100
Subject: [ID3 Dev] id3 updates re: itunes and frames in the wild
In-Reply-To: <20070919233951.GA8324@ayup.limey.net>
References: <46F1435B.5070809@northpb.com> <46F17950.8030200@fastmail.fm> <20070919233951.GA8324@ayup.limey.net>
Message-ID: <46F24D49.8000702@fastmail.fm>

Ben Bennett wrote:
> 3. I'm believe that iTunes will write 2.4 tags
>>>   even when writing in 2.3 format (TSOA, TSOT or TSOP)
>>>   Can anyone confirm this behavior?
>>>
>>>       
>> Yes it does, it also uses contractions of these fields for v2.2. it also 
>> has a field for Composer Sort  and a field for Album Artist Sort
>>
>> Field                       v23/v24              v22
>>
>> Title Sort               TSOT                 TST
>> Artist Sort             TSOP                 TSP
>> Album Sort           TSOA                 TSA
>> Album Artist Sort  TSO2                  TS2
>> Composer Sort     TSOC                  TSC
>>     
>
> Cool!  Does it actually honor these?  Updated the wiki.
>
>   
Sorry not sure what you mean by 'honor' these.

Also if you are interested in frames in the wild MusicBrainzPicard (and 
possibly other applications)
use XSOT,XSOP and XSOA for sort fields in ID3v2.3

Also are you interested in the keys used within TXXX frames, Picard  and 
Jaikoz both write various MusicBRainz info to these fields, full details
at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardQt/TagMapping

Also, i think last.fm write tags to support its music scrobbling 
service, but I dont know the details.

Paul



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From paul_t100 at fastmail.fm  Wed Sep 19 12:32:32 2007
From: paul_t100 at fastmail.fm (Paul Taylor)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:32:32 +0100
Subject: [ID3 Dev] id3 updates re: itunes and frames in the wild
In-Reply-To: <46F1435B.5070809@northpb.com>
References: <46F1435B.5070809@northpb.com>
Message-ID: <46F17950.8030200@fastmail.fm>

Dan O'Neill wrote:
> Ben Bennett just added some good information to id3.org about iTunes 
> [1] and frames seen, but not include in the standard. [2]
>
> Thanks for the updates Ben!
>
> In the interest of getting more complete information about iTunes, can 
> anyone help with the following question?

1. I am aware of the TCMP iTunes only frame, are there others?
     TCMP - iTunes compliation flag [3]

In v2.2 its TCP

> 3. I'm believe that iTunes will write 2.4 tags
>    even when writing in 2.3 format (TSOA, TSOT or TSOP)
>    Can anyone confirm this behavior?
>
Yes it does, it also uses contractions of these fields for v2.2. it also 
has a field for Composer Sort  and a field for Album Artist Sort

Field                       v23/v24              v22

Title Sort               TSOT                 TST
Artist Sort             TSOP                 TSP
Album Sort           TSOA                 TSA
Album Artist Sort  TSO2                  TS2
Composer Sort     TSOC                  TSC

> Thanks,
>
> dano
> [1] http://id3.org/iTunes
> [2] http://id3.org/Developer_Information
> [3] http://id3.org/iTunes_Compilation_Flag
> [4] http://id3.org/iTunes_Normalization_settings
>
Are these pages accessible from the wiki without searching, and it got 
me thinking are there loads of other pages there as well that I'm not 
aware of?

Paul



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From fiji at ayup.limey.net  Wed Sep 19 16:39:51 2007
From: fiji at ayup.limey.net (Ben Bennett)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:39:51 -0400
Subject: [ID3 Dev] id3 updates re: itunes and frames in the wild
In-Reply-To: <46F17950.8030200@fastmail.fm>
References: <46F1435B.5070809@northpb.com> <46F17950.8030200@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <20070919233951.GA8324@ayup.limey.net>

On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:32:32PM +0100, Paul Taylor wrote:
> Dan O'Neill wrote:
> >Ben Bennett just added some good information to id3.org about iTunes 
> >[1] and frames seen, but not include in the standard. [2]
> >
> >Thanks for the updates Ben!
> >
> >In the interest of getting more complete information about iTunes, can 
> >anyone help with the following question?
> 
> 1. I am aware of the TCMP iTunes only frame, are there others?
>     TCMP - iTunes compliation flag [3]
> 
> In v2.2 its TCP

Interesting.  Added to the wiki.
 
> >3. I'm believe that iTunes will write 2.4 tags
> >   even when writing in 2.3 format (TSOA, TSOT or TSOP)
> >   Can anyone confirm this behavior?
> >
> Yes it does, it also uses contractions of these fields for v2.2. it also 
> has a field for Composer Sort  and a field for Album Artist Sort
> 
> Field                       v23/v24              v22
> 
> Title Sort               TSOT                 TST
> Artist Sort             TSOP                 TSP
> Album Sort           TSOA                 TSA
> Album Artist Sort  TSO2                  TS2
> Composer Sort     TSOC                  TSC

Cool!  Does it actually honor these?  Updated the wiki.


> >[1] http://id3.org/iTunes
> >[2] http://id3.org/Developer_Information
> >[3] http://id3.org/iTunes_Compilation_Flag
> >[4] http://id3.org/iTunes_Normalization_settings
> >

> Are these pages accessible from the wiki without searching, and it got 

Yes, but I added them today... Developer info is off the sidebar, and
from there you can get to the others.


> me thinking are there loads of other pages there as well that I'm not 
> aware of?

Possibly ;-)

http://id3.org/RecentChanges -- Shows what's going on.

			-ben

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From mike at ambientdesign.com  Wed Sep 19 05:14:58 2007
From: mike at ambientdesign.com (Mike van Bokhoven)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:58 +1200
Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F305419152A168D4C91B60F82B90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-F305419152A168D4C91B60F82B90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <749F5067C7A94CF5A1E41079D47053B1@fluke>

Hi,

How about the Popularimeter frame? In the ID3v2.3 spec, see the section 
"4.18. Popularimeter":

The purpose of this frame is to specify how good an audio file is. Many 
interesting applications could be found to this frame such as a playlist 
that features better audiofiles more often than others or it could be used 
to profile a person's taste and find other 'good' files by comparing 
people's profiles. The frame is very simple. It contains the email address 
to the user, one rating byte and a four byte play counter, intended to be 
increased with one for every time the file is played. The email is a 
terminated string. The rating is 1-255 where 1 is worst and 255 is best. 0 
is unknown. If no personal counter is wanted it may be omitted. When the 
counter reaches all one's, one byte is inserted in front of the counter thus 
making the counter eight bits bigger in the same away as the play counter 
("PCNT"). There may be more than one "POPM" frame in each tag, but only one 
with the same email address.


Mike.


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To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:11 AM
Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature


> maybe this isn't the right place for this but i'm giving it a shot.
>
> i would like to see song ratings included as one of the categories of 
> information included in the ID3 tag.
> the various music library programs offer ratings systems, but don't store 
> the information in the ID3 tag which would be much more practical.
>
> thanks,
> kermit
>
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From kermit_blue at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 19 07:39:03 2007
From: kermit_blue at hotmail.com (kermit blue)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:39:03 -0400
Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
In-Reply-To: <B5E03219D72A466FBE3499A4F0921C64@fluke>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F33DA63BCBCEB631E92010482B90@phx.gbl>

i'm an outsider to the field, but yes i read that as well about 2.4.
that was why i wasn't sure if this list was the right place to ask about 
this.
i don't know the difficulty for adopting changes, but this would be a good 
change to adopt.


>From: "Mike van Bokhoven" <mike at ambientdesign.com>
>Reply-To: id3v2 at id3.org
>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:31:52 +1200
>
>Hi,
>
>Couple of points there - I'd say if Winamp and iTunes don't want to support 
>a currently implemented frame, there's not much point in trying to specify 
>another frame for them to ignore as well! Are you sure they don't use POPM? 
>I have no idea if they do or don't really, just seems silly not to use a 
>standardised frame for something like that. Additionally, repeated play 
>isn't necessary - all you have to do is set the rating byte to whatever 
>value you like, the play counter is optional, the way I read the spec. I'd 
>guess the way this frame is used is up to the app using it, the standard 
>doesn't specify much detail.
>
>While talking about new standard frames is interesting, in reality ID3 
>seems quite static. The uptake of 2.4 does not seem to have been very 
>widespread... am I wrong there? The practical upshot of that is that 
>there's very little point in defining new frames, unfortunately. Would 
>software authors update their support to a 2.5 if there was one?
>
>Mike.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "kermit blue" <kermit_blue at hotmail.com>
>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>
>
>>that's an interesting feature.
>>but what i'm thinking of is something that would carry over into programs 
>>like itunes & winamp the same way that things like genre already do.
>>also, i'm thinking of ratings that you yourself do as a one-time decision; 
>>the process you pointed to would take a lot of time to develop the ratings 
>>& only takes one factor (repetition of play) into account.
>>
>>thanks for the reply
>>
>>
>>>From: "Mike van Bokhoven" <mike at ambientdesign.com>
>>>Reply-To: id3v2 at id3.org
>>>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>>>Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:58 +1200
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>How about the Popularimeter frame? In the ID3v2.3 spec, see the section 
>>>"4.18. Popularimeter":
>>>
>>>The purpose of this frame is to specify how good an audio file is. Many 
>>>interesting applications could be found to this frame such as a playlist 
>>>that features better audiofiles more often than others or it could be 
>>>used to profile a person's taste and find other 'good' files by comparing 
>>>people's profiles. The frame is very simple. It contains the email 
>>>address to the user, one rating byte and a four byte play counter, 
>>>intended to be increased with one for every time the file is played. The 
>>>email is a terminated string. The rating is 1-255 where 1 is worst and 
>>>255 is best. 0 is unknown. If no personal counter is wanted it may be 
>>>omitted. When the counter reaches all one's, one byte is inserted in 
>>>front of the counter thus making the counter eight bits bigger in the 
>>>same away as the play counter ("PCNT"). There may be more than one "POPM" 
>>>frame in each tag, but only one with the same email address.
>>>
>>>
>>>Mike.
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "kermit blue" 
>>><kermit_blue at hotmail.com>
>>>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>>>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:11 AM
>>>Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>>>
>>>
>>>>maybe this isn't the right place for this but i'm giving it a shot.
>>>>
>>>>i would like to see song ratings included as one of the categories of 
>>>>information included in the ID3 tag.
>>>>the various music library programs offer ratings systems, but don't 
>>>>store the information in the ID3 tag which would be much more practical.
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>kermit
>>>>
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From kermit_blue at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 19 05:11:12 2007
From: kermit_blue at hotmail.com (kermit blue)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:11:12 -0400
Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
Message-ID: <BAY113-F305419152A168D4C91B60F82B90@phx.gbl>

maybe this isn't the right place for this but i'm giving it a shot.

i would like to see song ratings included as one of the categories of 
information included in the ID3 tag.
the various music library programs offer ratings systems, but don't store 
the information in the ID3 tag which would be much more practical.

thanks,
kermit

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From peter at phx.co.za  Fri Sep 14 00:21:46 2007
From: peter at phx.co.za (Peter Dzomlija)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:21:46 +0200
Subject: [ID3 Dev] Id3v2 Icon for Vista
Message-ID: <000001c7f69f$e9121da0$bb3658e0$@co.za>

The icons provided on ID3.org are a little out of date, so I created a
Vista-compliant ID3v2 icon, based on the original logo in developer
information. File Attached.

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From mike at ambientdesign.com  Wed Sep 19 05:31:52 2007
From: mike at ambientdesign.com (Mike van Bokhoven)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:31:52 +1200
Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F269209E16A6435EDB0D69982B90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-F269209E16A6435EDB0D69982B90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B5E03219D72A466FBE3499A4F0921C64@fluke>

Hi,

Couple of points there - I'd say if Winamp and iTunes don't want to support 
a currently implemented frame, there's not much point in trying to specify 
another frame for them to ignore as well! Are you sure they don't use POPM? 
I have no idea if they do or don't really, just seems silly not to use a 
standardised frame for something like that. Additionally, repeated play 
isn't necessary - all you have to do is set the rating byte to whatever 
value you like, the play counter is optional, the way I read the spec. I'd 
guess the way this frame is used is up to the app using it, the standard 
doesn't specify much detail.

While talking about new standard frames is interesting, in reality ID3 seems 
quite static. The uptake of 2.4 does not seem to have been very 
widespread... am I wrong there? The practical upshot of that is that there's 
very little point in defining new frames, unfortunately. Would software 
authors update their support to a 2.5 if there was one?

Mike.



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From: "kermit blue" <kermit_blue at hotmail.com>
To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] requested feature


> that's an interesting feature.
> but what i'm thinking of is something that would carry over into programs 
> like itunes & winamp the same way that things like genre already do.
> also, i'm thinking of ratings that you yourself do as a one-time decision; 
> the process you pointed to would take a lot of time to develop the ratings 
> & only takes one factor (repetition of play) into account.
>
> thanks for the reply
>
>
>>From: "Mike van Bokhoven" <mike at ambientdesign.com>
>>Reply-To: id3v2 at id3.org
>>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>>Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>>Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:58 +1200
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>How about the Popularimeter frame? In the ID3v2.3 spec, see the section 
>>"4.18. Popularimeter":
>>
>>The purpose of this frame is to specify how good an audio file is. Many 
>>interesting applications could be found to this frame such as a playlist 
>>that features better audiofiles more often than others or it could be used 
>>to profile a person's taste and find other 'good' files by comparing 
>>people's profiles. The frame is very simple. It contains the email address 
>>to the user, one rating byte and a four byte play counter, intended to be 
>>increased with one for every time the file is played. The email is a 
>>terminated string. The rating is 1-255 where 1 is worst and 255 is best. 0 
>>is unknown. If no personal counter is wanted it may be omitted. When the 
>>counter reaches all one's, one byte is inserted in front of the counter 
>>thus making the counter eight bits bigger in the same away as the play 
>>counter ("PCNT"). There may be more than one "POPM" frame in each tag, but 
>>only one with the same email address.
>>
>>
>>Mike.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "kermit blue" <kermit_blue at hotmail.com>
>>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:11 AM
>>Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>>
>>
>>>maybe this isn't the right place for this but i'm giving it a shot.
>>>
>>>i would like to see song ratings included as one of the categories of 
>>>information included in the ID3 tag.
>>>the various music library programs offer ratings systems, but don't store 
>>>the information in the ID3 tag which would be much more practical.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>kermit
>>>
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From dalepres at msn.com  Sun Sep  2 09:02:13 2007
From: dalepres at msn.com (Dale Preston)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:02:13 -0500
Subject: [ID3 Dev] iTunes COM Frame question
Message-ID: <BAY117-DS386F236268111EDB4EF87DDC80@phx.gbl>

In the latest versions of iTunes, I have run across another questionable COM frame issue in my code.  My code takes the frame bytes after the language descriptor and parses the null terminated strings.  This has worked for some time so, even though I cannot say I remember absolutely, I have to assume this is a change in how iTunes creates the COM frame.  

Now, instead of returning an array of two strings (description and comment), my parser is returning three strings (description, comment, and an empty string) because the frame bytes end in two null bytes instead of one.

The questionable frame is using ISO-8859 encoding (0 encoding byte).

I am trying to decide if my code is flawed and needs to be fixed somewhere to handle this scenario as a valid frame or if this frame is flawed (I think this is the case) and I need to handle it as a flaw - basically throw away the third string in the array and keep on moving.

Thanks for any feedback on this,


Dale
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