From jpatterson at redhensystems.com Wed Sep 9 05:31:16 2009 From: jpatterson at redhensystems.com (Jeremiah Patterson) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:31:16 -0600 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Geotagging In-Reply-To: <98EE0DBE-8939-48C1-AD2B-23E971ABA864@aelius.com> References: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> <2F0546D1-6737-4C53-A3E3-DECAB56BEEE0@maseurope.net> <98EE0DBE-8939-48C1-AD2B-23E971ABA864@aelius.com> Message-ID: <4AA7A014.20901@redhensystems.com> Nicholas J Humfrey wrote: > Or a User Defined Text Field (TXXX). This is the way MusicBrainz > stores its identifiers in ID3 tags: > > http://musicbrainz.org/docs/specs/metadata_tags.html > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardTagMapping > > It would be good to have a defacto standard for field name and > co-ordinate format... Wonder if AudioBoo could use this? > I agree that it would be good to have a frame specifically for geospatial information. Is there a way to make a proposal? Meanwhile, I'll look at musicbrainz's info. Thanks for the lead. Jerry > > nick. > > > On 8 Sep 2009, at 22:31, Mark Smith wrote: > >> Jerry, you might want to consider the "GEOB General encapsulated >> object"... >> >> best, >> >> Mark >> >> On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:24, Jeremiah Patterson wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm new to this list so apologies if these things have already been >>> addressed. If so, a pointer to the mailing list archive (if such an >>> animal exists) would be swell...... >>> >>> If I wanted to include a latitude, longitude, and possibly other >>> GPS information with my mp3, would there be a way to accomplish that >>> with id3v2? >>> How about an entire track log of information? (e.g., 30 seconds >>> worth of GPS data corresponding with a 30 second mp3. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Jerry >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org > For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From jpatterson at redhensystems.com Wed Sep 9 09:58:10 2009 From: jpatterson at redhensystems.com (Jeremiah Patterson) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:58:10 -0600 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Geotagging In-Reply-To: <4AA7D500.5000608@fastmail.fm> References: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> <2F0546D1-6737-4C53-A3E3-DECAB56BEEE0@maseurope.net> <98EE0DBE-8939-48C1-AD2B-23E971ABA864@aelius.com> <4AA7A014.20901@redhensystems.com> <37EC7BF5-DB4A-4AC0-BE1C-7226DD3C6FA3@syntience.com> <4AA7D500.5000608@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: > There no way of proposing [a change] because there is no one > actively charged with creating a new version of ID3, all you > can do is use a frame like TXXX which allows you to add a > name and value, [snip] Oh, from the content on the id3.org website, it seems like v2.4 is in the works, i.e., not finalized. I thought that id3.org's owners owned and could change the ID3 specification. I'm not suggesting that we make a revision simply for adding geotagging, but rather float a proposal so that people could review and work out any problems so that when it comes time for another revision, we could formalize that change into the new revision. Are you saying there's no process for doing such a thing? Was there no process for id3v2's existing revisions? Just like EXIF and VorbisComment metadata includes geospatial information, I am of the opinion that ID3 should also allow for geospatial outside of simply dumping in a TXXX frame. I would propose that it be something like SGPS and similar in content to EXIF's GPS fields and include a way to mark timecodes in the file with gps records, perhaps similar to the ECTO and other synchronized frames do it.....but I'd settle for a single GPS mark :) editing becomes a little tricky, but this would need to be dealt with for ECTO and other synch'ed frames as well. Thanks, Jerry > > Paul > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For > additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From njh at aelius.com Tue Sep 8 14:47:34 2009 From: njh at aelius.com (Nicholas J Humfrey) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:47:34 +0100 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Geotagging In-Reply-To: <2F0546D1-6737-4C53-A3E3-DECAB56BEEE0@maseurope.net> References: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> <2F0546D1-6737-4C53-A3E3-DECAB56BEEE0@maseurope.net> Message-ID: <98EE0DBE-8939-48C1-AD2B-23E971ABA864@aelius.com> Or a User Defined Text Field (TXXX). This is the way MusicBrainz stores its identifiers in ID3 tags: http://musicbrainz.org/docs/specs/metadata_tags.html http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardTagMapping It would be good to have a defacto standard for field name and co- ordinate format... Wonder if AudioBoo could use this? nick. On 8 Sep 2009, at 22:31, Mark Smith wrote: > Jerry, you might want to consider the "GEOB General encapsulated > object"... > > best, > > Mark > > On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:24, Jeremiah Patterson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I'm new to this list so apologies if these things have already >> been addressed. If so, a pointer to the mailing list archive (if >> such an animal exists) would be swell...... >> >> If I wanted to include a latitude, longitude, and possibly other >> GPS information with my mp3, would there be a way to accomplish >> that with id3v2? >> How about an entire track log of information? (e.g., 30 seconds >> worth of GPS data corresponding with a 30 second mp3. >> >> Thanks! >> Jerry > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org > For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From paul_t100 at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 9 09:17:04 2009 From: paul_t100 at fastmail.fm (Paul Taylor) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:17:04 +0100 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Geotagging In-Reply-To: <37EC7BF5-DB4A-4AC0-BE1C-7226DD3C6FA3@syntience.com> References: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> <2F0546D1-6737-4C53-A3E3-DECAB56BEEE0@maseurope.net> <98EE0DBE-8939-48C1-AD2B-23E971ABA864@aelius.com> <4AA7A014.20901@redhensystems.com> <37EC7BF5-DB4A-4AC0-BE1C-7226DD3C6FA3@syntience.com> Message-ID: <4AA7D500.5000608@fastmail.fm> Monica Anderson wrote: > I would like to learn how to make a proposal also. I'm interested in > getting the musical key of the song added to the meta-info. > > - Monica There no way of proposing one because there is no one actively charged with creating a new version of ID3, all you can do is use a frame like TXXX which allows you to add a name and value, and then publicize what you have done and add incorporate it into the libraries and projects you are involved in. For musical-key there is already a frame for this TKEY Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From paul_t100 at fastmail.fm Tue Sep 8 15:32:51 2009 From: paul_t100 at fastmail.fm (Paul Taylor) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:32:51 +0100 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Geotagging In-Reply-To: <98EE0DBE-8939-48C1-AD2B-23E971ABA864@aelius.com> References: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> <2F0546D1-6737-4C53-A3E3-DECAB56BEEE0@maseurope.net> <98EE0DBE-8939-48C1-AD2B-23E971ABA864@aelius.com> Message-ID: <4AA6DB93.9050306@fastmail.fm> Nicholas J Humfrey wrote: > Or a User Defined Text Field (TXXX). This is the way MusicBrainz > stores its identifiers in ID3 tags: > > http://musicbrainz.org/docs/specs/metadata_tags.html > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardTagMapping > > It would be good to have a defacto standard for field name and > co-ordinate format... Wonder if AudioBoo could use this? > > > nick. Yes, TXXX frames are much easier to use, and much better supported then GEOB Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From jpatterson at redhensystems.com Tue Sep 8 08:24:16 2009 From: jpatterson at redhensystems.com (Jeremiah Patterson) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:24:16 -0600 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Geotagging Message-ID: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> Hi All, I'm new to this list so apologies if these things have already been addressed. If so, a pointer to the mailing list archive (if such an animal exists) would be swell...... If I wanted to include a latitude, longitude, and possibly other GPS information with my mp3, would there be a way to accomplish that with id3v2? How about an entire track log of information? (e.g., 30 seconds worth of GPS data corresponding with a 30 second mp3. Thanks! Jerry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at maseurope.net Thu Sep 24 05:26:53 2009 From: mark at maseurope.net (Mark Smith) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:26:53 +0100 Subject: [ID3 Dev] ISRC Codes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marvin - an mp3 file, as I understand it, is simply a long list of audio frames (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3). There's nowhere to embed any info other than that specified in the frame spec, which doesn't include ISRC or anything like it. Any id3 tag is extraneous to the mp3 spec itself, and so can be removed/edited without affecting the playability of the mp3 file - so I think what you're hoping for can't really be done. :( Best wishes, Mark Smith On 24 Sep 2009, at 13:01, Marvin Hamlet wrote: > Hi, > > As a publisher, I know that prior to publishing, I can populate my > ID3 tags with all sorts of information; but I'm also aware that any > end-user can simply delete or modify any of my tags if they so > choose. I know that using custom tags can make this a little more > difficult, since some tag editors are only capable of deleting > fields they recognise and not just ALL ID3 tags, but the potential > is still there. > > I'd love it if there was a way to lock a tag somehow, and if any of > you know of a way, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's not my main > question today... > > I want to add an ISRC code to a product, but I want to know if the > ISRC field in ID3 is simply an editible tag that can easily be > deleted/modified or if it can act like one of the fixed file > attributes like the ones I've just described? > > If you compare it to ISAN, which is a similar system used for video > files, all the major video formats have a placeholder for an ISAN > code, which is separate from the tags, meaning one can be confident > of it remaining as part of the file regardless of any additional > tag editing. I want to know if ISRC can be embedded in the same way > for audio files? > > I realise this may not really come under the ID3 domain, but I'm > hoping some of you could shed some light or point me in the right > direction? > > Thanks > > Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. Download Now --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From phibon at scarlet.be Sat Sep 26 03:42:38 2009 From: phibon at scarlet.be (Pascal Hibon) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:42:38 +0200 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Image question Message-ID: <23B3C34519624752A3A149030C1C5903@PHIBON> Hello, I recently encountered an MP3 file that contained a 20k jpg image inside the ID3 frames. The ID3v2 header indicated that it was about 2k in total size. The image was properly encoded in a APIC frame. My question is: shouldn't the ID3v2 header include the length of the image as well? Thank you, Pascal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pgbennett at comcast.net Fri Sep 25 16:12:14 2009 From: pgbennett at comcast.net (Peter Bennett) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:12:14 -0400 Subject: [ID3 Dev] ISRC Codes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ABD4E4E.8050609@comcast.net> Hi Jampal will edit the ISRC (TSRC) frame, and any other frame that is text based (i.e. starts with T). You can also create the frame if it is not present.Any frame can be deleted. jampal.sf.net. Peter Nicholas J Humfrey wrote: > Anything is editable if someone builds an editor to allow you to edit > it... > > I would have thought that the ISRC field would be something that the > user shouldn't be allowed to edit - it should be extracted from the CD > (if available) and then left alone... > > This is the behavior of Max (CD ripping software for Mac OS X). > > Is anyone aware of some software which does allow you to edit the > ISRC? (other than command-line tools) > > nick. > > > On 24 Sep 2009, at 13:01, Marvin Hamlet > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As a publisher, I know that prior to publishing, I can populate my >> ID3 tags with all sorts of information; but I'm also aware that any >> end-user can simply delete or modify any of my tags if they so >> choose. I know that using custom tags can make this a little more >> difficult, since some tag editors are only capable of deleting fields >> they recognise and not just ALL ID3 tags, but the potential is still >> there. >> >> I'd love it if there was a way to lock a tag somehow, and if any of >> you know of a way, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's not my main >> question today... >> >> I want to add an ISRC code to a product, but I want to know if the >> ISRC field in ID3 is simply an editible tag that can easily be >> deleted/modified or if it can act like one of the fixed file >> attributes like the ones I've just described? >> >> If you compare it to ISAN, which is a similar system used for video >> files, all the major video formats have a placeholder for an ISAN >> code, which is separate from the tags, meaning one can be confident >> of it remaining as part of the file regardless of any additional tag >> editing. I want to know if ISRC can be embedded in the same way for >> audio files? >> >> I realise this may not really come under the ID3 domain, but I'm >> hoping some of you could shed some light or point me in the right >> direction? >> >> Thanks >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. Download Now >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From p.org at gmx.at Mon Sep 14 05:14:06 2009 From: p.org at gmx.at (Stefan Nowak) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:14:06 +0200 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Strange playback bug on Sony Ericsson K750i Message-ID: <27D5847E-FFC1-4510-8249-E23F21F7F324@gmx.at> Hello! I have realised a strange bug on my Sony Ericsson K750i recently. After I have added album art for many of my songs within iTunes, most of these songs continued to also work on my Sony Ericsson K750i, with one rare exception, which suddenly played back at a very low pitch. Something must have went wrong. I investigated, and hereby publish my results, and hope that some experts will comment. Sample files temporarily available at: http://sn.sonance.net/files/temporary/id3-images/ Disclaimer: Note, that the 3 provided music files are there for technical purposes only, the copyright remains with the original owner, and that I will remove the files, when the technical investigation has ended. Regards, Stefan Nowak --- Playback on the Sony Ericsson K750i The MP3 files have originally all been encoded with the same software (iTunes 3.0.1), and all use the same ID3 version 2.3 and got their image art added/removed/added in iTunes 8.2 (23) and get synced from a special iTunes playlist to the phone's memory stick with iTuneMyWalkman 0.954, which is solely copying the files without any modification. # Files without image art (APIC frame). Playback works fine! ./images-none/01 Pilentze Pee.mp3 ./images-none/02 Svatba.mp3 ./images-none/03 Kalimankou Denkou.mp3 # The same picture in its different file formats is embedded into the music files accordingly to the prefix number. ./images-different/01-web-download.png ./images-different/02-photoshop-reexport.png ./images-different/03-photoshop-export.jpg # The playback results are noted below the file. ./images-different/01 Pilentze Pee.mp3 ## The file plays back in a very low pitch! Something is wrong! ./images-different/02 Svatba.mp3 ## Works! ./images-different/03 Kalimankou Denkou.mp3 ## Works! # Conclusion: The encoding software and the used ID3 version was the same for all 3 files. The only difference were the embedded picture files. They are visually the same, but were saved in different formats. So the problem is very likely in 01-web-download.png Shouldn't the ID3 container format withstand from whatever problematic content is actually in a APIC frame by a proper header which instructs on how many bytes to skip/ignore? I inspected 01-web-download.png in a hex editor, but did not find the only obvious problematic strings of which I could think, neither "TAG" nor "ID3". Only "QuickTime" came to my attention, maybe some magic bytes here, maybe some QuickTime container format fragments survived in the PNG file, and confuse the ID3 format? But I guess, very likely no ID3 error, but rather just a bug in the Sony Ericsson Software. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From support at mp3tag.de Sat Sep 26 04:06:23 2009 From: support at mp3tag.de (Florian Heidenreich) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:06:23 +0200 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Image question In-Reply-To: <23B3C34519624752A3A149030C1C5903@PHIBON> References: <23B3C34519624752A3A149030C1C5903@PHIBON> Message-ID: <219bcb650909260406p740fbcb4hf0cf910a5fe6cec9@mail.gmail.com> Hello Pascal, On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Pascal Hibon wrote: > My question is: shouldn?t the ID3v2 header include the length of the image > as well? Definitely! The size encoded in the ID3v2 header includes the size of the extended header (if any), size of padding, and the size of all frames (including APIC) inside the ID3v2 tag. So it seems that your file was tagged by a broken editor. If you remember which tool you've used, please take the time and notify the respective developer. Kind regards, Florian -- Mp3tag - the universal Tag editor http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From mark at maseurope.net Tue Sep 8 14:31:18 2009 From: mark at maseurope.net (Mark Smith) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:31:18 +0100 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Geotagging In-Reply-To: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> References: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> Message-ID: <2F0546D1-6737-4C53-A3E3-DECAB56BEEE0@maseurope.net> Jerry, you might want to consider the "GEOB General encapsulated object"... best, Mark On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:24, Jeremiah Patterson wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm new to this list so apologies if these things have already > been addressed. If so, a pointer to the mailing list archive (if > such an animal exists) would be swell...... > > If I wanted to include a latitude, longitude, and possibly other > GPS information with my mp3, would there be a way to accomplish > that with id3v2? > How about an entire track log of information? (e.g., 30 seconds > worth of GPS data corresponding with a 30 second mp3. > > Thanks! > Jerry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From paul_t100 at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 24 13:11:02 2009 From: paul_t100 at fastmail.fm (Paul Taylor) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:11:02 +0100 Subject: [ID3 Dev] ISRC Codes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ABBD256.6010809@fastmail.fm> Nicholas J Humfrey wrote: > Anything is editable if someone builds an editor to allow you to edit > it... > > I would have thought that the ISRC field would be something that the > user shouldn't be allowed to edit - it should be extracted from the CD > (if available) and then left alone... > > This is the behavior of Max (CD ripping software for Mac OS X). > > Is anyone aware of some software which does allow you to edit the > ISRC? (other than command-line tools) > > nick. Jaikoz does , and I think Picard as well Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From syntience at gmail.com Wed Sep 9 09:08:46 2009 From: syntience at gmail.com (Monica Anderson) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:08:46 -0700 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Geotagging In-Reply-To: <4AA7A014.20901@redhensystems.com> References: <2701A1B3872F4FDF913E20A6D13D8F62@RedHenSystems.local> <2F0546D1-6737-4C53-A3E3-DECAB56BEEE0@maseurope.net> <98EE0DBE-8939-48C1-AD2B-23E971ABA864@aelius.com> <4AA7A014.20901@redhensystems.com> Message-ID: <37EC7BF5-DB4A-4AC0-BE1C-7226DD3C6FA3@syntience.com> I would like to learn how to make a proposal also. I'm interested in getting the musical key of the song added to the meta-info. - Monica On Sep 9, 2009, at 05:31 , Jeremiah Patterson wrote: > Nicholas J Humfrey wrote: >> Or a User Defined Text Field (TXXX). This is the way MusicBrainz >> stores its identifiers in ID3 tags: >> >> http://musicbrainz.org/docs/specs/metadata_tags.html >> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardTagMapping >> >> It would be good to have a defacto standard for field name and co- >> ordinate format... Wonder if AudioBoo could use this? >> > I agree that it would be good to have a frame specifically for > geospatial information. Is there a way to make a proposal? > Meanwhile, I'll look at musicbrainz's info. Thanks for the lead. > > Jerry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From p.org at gmx.at Mon Sep 14 07:45:54 2009 From: p.org at gmx.at (Stefan Nowak) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:45:54 +0200 Subject: [ID3 Dev] Mailing List Archive Search Engine does not work Message-ID: Hello all! The recent 2 days I have intensely studied the ID3 standard, related information sources, and performed research on my own music player (iTunes) and its library and files. By working with digital music for many years now, I meanwhile know the main practical issues of ID3 related topics and its real world implementations. I have written some proposals for standard additions, as well spotted missing/flawful implementations of iTunes, which I would like to publish to the iTunes wiki page. But as I don't want to bother you, the ID3 workgroup unnecessarily, I read and research as much as I can do on my own, before I put it online for public presentation and discussion. Therefore I search through the 2 main information repositories, the Wiki and the Mailinglist. BUT: The Mailinglist search function does not work!!! When I start a search, such as: http://search.gmane.org/?query=feature+artist&group=gmane.comp.multimedia.id3v2 I get this error page: Either the group "gmane.comp.multimedia.id3v2" doesn't exist, or has no indexable articles (usually this means it was only added very group filter can be a single Gmane group name (e.g. gmane.discuss) or a wildcarded hierarchy (e.g. gmane.comp.*). Since all groups start "gmane.", you can omit that. Note that arbitrary wildcards and substring matches aren't currently supported. Is this a mistake or do you intentionally turn the mailing list archive search off? Thanks for replies, Stefan Nowak --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: id3v2-unsubscribe at id3.org For additional commands, e-mail: id3v2-help at id3.org From njh at aelius.com Thu Sep 24 10:54:05 2009 From: njh at aelius.com (Nicholas J Humfrey) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:54:05 +0100 Subject: [ID3 Dev] ISRC Codes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anything is editable if someone builds an editor to allow you to edit it... I would have thought that the ISRC field would be something that the user shouldn't be allowed to edit - it should be extracted from the CD (if available) and then left alone... This is the behavior of Max (CD ripping software for Mac OS X). Is anyone aware of some software which does allow you to edit the ISRC? (other than command-line tools) nick. On 24 Sep 2009, at 13:01, Marvin Hamlet wrote: > Hi, > > As a publisher, I know that prior to publishing, I can populate my > ID3 tags with all sorts of information; but I'm also aware that any > end-user can simply delete or modify any of my tags if they so > choose. I know that using custom tags can make this a little more > difficult, since some tag editors are only capable of deleting > fields they recognise and not just ALL ID3 tags, but the potential > is still there. > > I'd love it if there was a way to lock a tag somehow, and if any of > you know of a way, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's not my main > question today... > > I want to add an ISRC code to a product, but I want to know if the > ISRC field in ID3 is simply an editible tag that can easily be > deleted/modified or if it can act like one of the fixed file > attributes like the ones I've just described? > > If you compare it to ISAN, which is a similar system used for video > files, all the major video formats have a placeholder for an ISAN > code, which is separate from the tags, meaning one can be confident > of it remaining as part of the file regardless of any additional tag > editing. I want to know if ISRC can be embedded in the same way for > audio files? > > I realise this may not really come under the ID3 domain, but I'm > hoping some of you could shed some light or point me in the right > direction? > > Thanks > > Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. Download Now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marvmove at hotmail.com Thu Sep 24 05:01:02 2009 From: marvmove at hotmail.com (Marvin Hamlet) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:01:02 +0000 Subject: [ID3 Dev] ISRC Codes Message-ID: Hi, As a publisher, I know that prior to publishing, I can populate my ID3 tags with all sorts of information; but I'm also aware that any end-user can simply delete or modify any of my tags if they so choose. I know that using custom tags can make this a little more difficult, since some tag editors are only capable of deleting fields they recognise and not just ALL ID3 tags, but the potential is still there. I'd love it if there was a way to lock a tag somehow, and if any of you know of a way, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's not my main question today... I want to add an ISRC code to a product, but I want to know if the ISRC field in ID3 is simply an editible tag that can easily be deleted/modified or if it can act like one of the fixed file attributes like the ones I've just described? If you compare it to ISAN, which is a similar system used for video files, all the major video formats have a placeholder for an ISAN code, which is separate from the tags, meaning one can be confident of it remaining as part of the file regardless of any additional tag editing. I want to know if ISRC can be embedded in the same way for audio files? I realise this may not really come under the ID3 domain, but I'm hoping some of you could shed some light or point me in the right direction? 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