[ID3 Dev] id2v2.4???

[Jim]

Mike - Take a look at the foobar2000 forums if you want to read more about
why the author went with 2.4 after starting out with 2.3.  For the latest
versions I think there is a "compatibility mode" which sort of writes 2.4
tags that can be read by a 2.3 reader.  Don't quote me on that.  I've only
read about the option.  I haven't tested it out myself.

I haven't used id3lib much either.  But perhaps 2.4 support can be
encapsulated enough that very basic read support could be added and then
later expanded upon to provide support for more of the 2.4 frames as well as
writing support.  I'd be willing to help out too.

-Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Makuch" <mkm6 at makuch.org>
To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: [ID3 Dev] id2v2.4???


> > (foobar2000) only supports writing 2.4 tags
>
> I discovered this recently. In looking for ReplayGain solutions
> I tested out fubar. It silently converted my 2.3 tags to 2.4
> (test data of course). Very poor behavior IMHO.
>
> I've been relying upon id3lib for 6 years and I'd hate to see
> it die a slow death. I have no idea how big an effort it would be
> but I'm one ole code slinger who'd give some time towards
> adding 2.4 to it. Clearly it is needed.
>
> Mike
>
>
> > Perhaps if 2.4 is adopted by more software then Apple will
> > finally fix the
> > problem in iTunes?  (I know I'm probably deluding myself with
> > such wishful
> > thinking but I can hope.)  Or perhaps some other work-around
> > can be devised.
> > But I still think letting Apple ruin the future of 2.4 just
> > because they
> > can't get it right in iTunes would be a tragedy.
>
>
> >
> > -Jim
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ben Bennett" <fiji at ayup.limey.net>
> > To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] id2v2.4???
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 05:14:15PM -0800, Robert Manson wrote:
> > > > I think we should discourage any tags being written in 2.4 due to
> > > > the iTunes bug.
> > >
> > > Ugh.  That is a shame.
> > >
> > > I like 2.4's changes to list handling in some of the text frames
> > > (making them consistently null separated vs. frame specific rules).
> > >
> > > I like the improved time handling stuff... making a timestamp format
> > > and consolidating the split time fields is nice.
> > >
> > > I like the sort order frames (but I am not sure if anything uses
> > > them)
> > >
> > > And I love the addition of UTF-8.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately you are probably correct though :-(
> > >
> > > As a note, you can work around the problem if you only have
> > one large
> > > frame and you put it at the end of the file.  That way
> > iTunes wants to
> > > read the longer frame length, but there isn't enough left in the tag
> > > to read (or it reads the padding), but then renders the image
> > > correctly (since the jpeg/gif/png has its own size info and the
> > > trailing junk is ignored).
> > >
> > > The nasty case occurs if you have multiple frames > 128 bytes, or if
> > > the frame contents are not images (or another
> > self-identifying type).
> > > Or if you are trying to read a tag iTunes wrote.
> > >
> > > -ben
> > >
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