[ID3 Dev] requested feature

[Mike van Bokhoven]

Hi,

Couple of points there - I'd say if Winamp and iTunes don't want to support 
a currently implemented frame, there's not much point in trying to specify 
another frame for them to ignore as well! Are you sure they don't use POPM? 
I have no idea if they do or don't really, just seems silly not to use a 
standardised frame for something like that. Additionally, repeated play 
isn't necessary - all you have to do is set the rating byte to whatever 
value you like, the play counter is optional, the way I read the spec. I'd 
guess the way this frame is used is up to the app using it, the standard 
doesn't specify much detail.

While talking about new standard frames is interesting, in reality ID3 seems 
quite static. The uptake of 2.4 does not seem to have been very 
widespread... am I wrong there? The practical upshot of that is that there's 
very little point in defining new frames, unfortunately. Would software 
authors update their support to a 2.5 if there was one?

Mike.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kermit blue" <kermit_blue at hotmail.com>
To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] requested feature


> that's an interesting feature.
> but what i'm thinking of is something that would carry over into programs 
> like itunes & winamp the same way that things like genre already do.
> also, i'm thinking of ratings that you yourself do as a one-time decision; 
> the process you pointed to would take a lot of time to develop the ratings 
> & only takes one factor (repetition of play) into account.
>
> thanks for the reply
>
>
>>From: "Mike van Bokhoven" <mike at ambientdesign.com>
>>Reply-To: id3v2 at id3.org
>>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>>Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>>Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:58 +1200
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>How about the Popularimeter frame? In the ID3v2.3 spec, see the section 
>>"4.18. Popularimeter":
>>
>>The purpose of this frame is to specify how good an audio file is. Many 
>>interesting applications could be found to this frame such as a playlist 
>>that features better audiofiles more often than others or it could be used 
>>to profile a person's taste and find other 'good' files by comparing 
>>people's profiles. The frame is very simple. It contains the email address 
>>to the user, one rating byte and a four byte play counter, intended to be 
>>increased with one for every time the file is played. The email is a 
>>terminated string. The rating is 1-255 where 1 is worst and 255 is best. 0 
>>is unknown. If no personal counter is wanted it may be omitted. When the 
>>counter reaches all one's, one byte is inserted in front of the counter 
>>thus making the counter eight bits bigger in the same away as the play 
>>counter ("PCNT"). There may be more than one "POPM" frame in each tag, but 
>>only one with the same email address.
>>
>>
>>Mike.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "kermit blue" <kermit_blue at hotmail.com>
>>To: <id3v2 at id3.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:11 AM
>>Subject: [ID3 Dev] requested feature
>>
>>
>>>maybe this isn't the right place for this but i'm giving it a shot.
>>>
>>>i would like to see song ratings included as one of the categories of 
>>>information included in the ID3 tag.
>>>the various music library programs offer ratings systems, but don't store 
>>>the information in the ID3 tag which would be much more practical.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>kermit
>>>
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